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It was known as sugar loaf hill and ran along ash tree lane and also down into beacon. His wife had a mother called eliza lee, which i thought may also have some gypsy lineage as i also know. Tinman/tinsmith is quite a common gypsy occupation.

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Im researching the encampment that was for many years on the hill over looking luton in kent.

His name was george hardy, and i have heard that this was a common gypsy name.

Tin man/tin plate workerhi denise i would suggest that you do indeed possibly have evidence of travelling ancestry. Pancras collins & catlin of benington / ardeley herts, collins,.